November 05, 2013
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm PST
DIY Skills represent all the ways we can build our world. From “Wind Engineer” to “Beekeeper,” these creative roles empower kids to develop new abilities and know-how. We’re inspired by teachers integrating DIY into their classrooms, and want to help. A common request has been for DIY to map how our skills align with various educational standards. This webinar will provide insight into how we hope to make this a tremendous resource. Guests include Megan Leppla of DIY.org; Jim Chandler of Auburn Land Lab; Joe Dillon of the Denver Writing Project; and Paul Oh of the National Writing Project.
Live Chat Archive
[Nov 6 2013, 12:02 AM] edinnovator: getting ready to start! [Nov 6 2013, 12:04 AM] edinnovator: ok, we're live! [Nov 6 2013, 12:05 AM] edinnovator: if you're not seeing the webinar, you should refresh your page [Nov 6 2013, 12:05 AM] edinnovator: welcome everyone! [Nov 6 2013, 12:05 AM] chadsansing: Hello :) [Nov 6 2013, 12:05 AM] fmindlin: hi all! [Nov 6 2013, 12:06 AM] edinnovator: hey Chad, hey Fred - this is Paul Oh chatting as Ed Innovator [Nov 6 2013, 12:06 AM] fmindlin: cool, thnx 4 letting us know the secret.. [Nov 6 2013, 12:06 AM] fmindlin: ;>} [Nov 6 2013, 12:07 AM] chadsansing: Mighty POH. [Nov 6 2013, 12:08 AM] edinnovator: Mr. Sansing! [Nov 6 2013, 12:08 AM] edinnovator: Mr. Mozfest Fellow [Nov 6 2013, 12:09 AM] onewheeljoe: Hi Everyone! [Nov 6 2013, 12:09 AM] chadsansing: They just call me Chad. [Nov 6 2013, 12:09 AM] fmindlin: They call me "the string guy" or Mr. M [Nov 6 2013, 12:10 AM] edinnovator: Nice, Fred [Nov 6 2013, 12:10 AM] edinnovator: Let me know if you have questions and I'll pass them on to the webinar [Nov 6 2013, 12:10 AM] edinnovator: the webinar guests [Nov 6 2013, 12:12 AM] chadsansing: I think DIY.org has at least two paths to travel here: how do DIY.org practices lend themselves to reading standards (e.g. analyze/compose texts with multimedia pieces) and how do specific DIY.org projects lend themselves to particular content standards in math and reading/making in science and history. [Nov 6 2013, 12:14 AM] chadsansing: One "habit" kit might address how to compose a DIY.org-hosted portfolio that articulates student learning. Another might be a "how-to" expository text editor that lets kids create steps more easily than Instructables does. [Nov 6 2013, 12:14 AM] edinnovator: Chad, would you like to join the webinar? [Nov 6 2013, 12:15 AM] chadsansing: Particular makes that align to standards might benefit from teacher and kid "field notes" (to borrow a Graphite term) that crowd-source standards alignment (e.g. "My kids and I created geometic solids in Minecraft to meet math.gradeLevel.topic.specificThing). [Nov 6 2013, 12:16 AM] fmindlin: There are core ideas in the standards that echo DIY strategies: critical thinking, collaboration, and creativity. [Nov 6 2013, 12:16 AM] chadsansing: @edinnovator: thank you, but i'm in the midst of kid bedtime, etc. :) [Nov 6 2013, 12:16 AM] edinnovator: ok, cool [Nov 6 2013, 12:16 AM] edinnovator: will try to articulate your thoughts in the webinar [Nov 6 2013, 12:17 AM] chadsansing: Hack'em. [Nov 6 2013, 12:18 AM] chadsansing: Kids and teachers alike could crowdsource alignments, lessons, and pathways through badges. Maybe a teacher-dashboard is too formal for DIY.org (thinking of something like iCivics here), but some DIY.org-vetted community content creation for "schoolified" content might work. It would give educators a way to contrbiute and enter the community. [Nov 6 2013, 12:18 AM] fmindlin: interest-driven sounds like a contemporary reframing of what I think of as "authentic" [Nov 6 2013, 12:19 AM] fmindlin: What about a DIY linkup with Youth Voices somehow? Mutual channels? [Nov 6 2013, 12:20 AM] chadsansing: Yes. Go BEYOND. Get real. Deschool school. [Nov 6 2013, 12:20 AM] edinnovator: interesting point, Fred, re: interest-driven as a reframing of authentic [Nov 6 2013, 12:21 AM] edinnovator: My issue with "authentic" is that I feel like I can't really get a handle on it - how would you define authentic? [Nov 6 2013, 12:22 AM] chadsansing: "Personally meaningful?" [Nov 6 2013, 12:22 AM] fmindlin: yes, that's a helpful phrase [Nov 6 2013, 12:23 AM] chadsansing: Cool, Jim! Go writing! Part of the way Graphite uses "field notes" is to bring in volunteer-generated user-reviews of products and how they connect to their classrooms. [Nov 6 2013, 12:25 AM] fmindlin: I've had a couple of exchanges with Elyse about the word--she was bothered by how it became a tendentious and political word for a while...I agree with her and am looking for alternative terminology [Nov 6 2013, 12:26 AM] edinnovator: Like you, Fred, I like "personally meaningful" and also "interest-driven" [Nov 6 2013, 12:26 AM] chadsansing: I may be behind what DIY.org does right now, but what Jim talks about (and what I tried to do with some kids last year re: post-make reflection) could be built into DIY.org as part of the site's "meta." [Nov 6 2013, 12:26 AM] Steve Hern: why is there such a big wow on adding arts to the stem criteria. they call it steam. will common core standards closely follow stem or even steam [Nov 6 2013, 12:27 AM] chadsansing: Politics and funding, perhaps. [Nov 6 2013, 12:27 AM] fmindlin: Meaningful practice=the opposite of rote [Nov 6 2013, 12:27 AM] edinnovator: I'll pose your question to the group, Steve [Nov 6 2013, 12:27 AM] Steve Hern: thank you edinnovator. [Nov 6 2013, 12:28 AM] edinnovator: My pleasure [Nov 6 2013, 12:28 AM] Steve Hern: what is next generation science standards, and where can i get a copy of it. [Nov 6 2013, 12:28 AM] chadsansing: http://www.nextgenscience.org/next-generation-science-standards? [Nov 6 2013, 12:28 AM] fmindlin: Writing in the broadest sense, including multimedia and transmedia [Nov 6 2013, 12:28 AM] edinnovator: http://www.nextgenscience.org/next-generation-science-standards [Nov 6 2013, 12:28 AM] chadsansing: Muhahahahahahah, Paul. [Nov 6 2013, 12:29 AM] edinnovator: always faster to the draw than me, Chad [Nov 6 2013, 12:29 AM] chadsansing: I dunno; I keep losing Skullzfyre. [Nov 6 2013, 12:31 AM] chadsansing: o/, Jim. [Nov 6 2013, 12:33 AM] chadsansing: Rock on, DIY.org & co. Gotta go; will watch more later - [Nov 6 2013, 12:34 AM] edinnovator: Thanks, Chad! Later! [Nov 6 2013, 12:36 AM] fmindlin: @Steve HernThe other curricula are feeling slighted have started campaigning for the piece of the pie. Fine Arts wants it changed to STEAM. Language Arts and Social Studies want to get in and make it STEAMLASS. Our admins are saying the money is for STEM only, so until we get the money we have to just call it STEM, but then we will call it STEM+. My unpopular response has been if we are making an all inclusive acronym doesn't that just boil down to SCHOOL? [Nov 6 2013, 12:37 AM] edinnovator: Very quotable, Fred. [Nov 6 2013, 12:38 AM] Steve Hern: hello fmindlin, i believe its called innovation [Nov 6 2013, 12:39 AM] Steve Hern: admins are always making excuses because some know very little of how to incorporate stem, lack of science background [Nov 6 2013, 12:39 AM] fmindlin: Thinking about some way to cross-fertilize the things that happen on fan-fiction sites with DIY writing--have rock-star makers model their classy how-tos? Hot Twitter chats? [Nov 6 2013, 12:40 AM] Steve Hern: innovation comes from the teacher hardly from administrators [Nov 6 2013, 12:43 AM] Steve Hern: my comment on that edinnovator, checking with standards develops assessment skills for teachers and students, Professional development for teachers and more thematic units for science curriculum, i believe its checks and balance, edinnovator you may want to comment on what i said. [Nov 6 2013, 12:44 AM] edinnovator: Fred, could you say more about your question re: fan fiction? Not sure I'm following. [Nov 6 2013, 12:45 AM] edinnovator: My feeling about standards is that they should be viewed as a tool that a teacher uses to help consider what should be taught. Versus how standards are often rolled out, which is a means towards standardized tests. [Nov 6 2013, 12:45 AM] edinnovator: In other words, I agree with Joe's thought - that standards should allow for creative application. [Nov 6 2013, 12:46 AM] Steve Hern: common standards would be difficult on native american rez schools. as you know native education is secluded and why create common standards without involving culture. [Nov 6 2013, 12:47 AM] edinnovator: Great point, Steve. [Nov 6 2013, 12:47 AM] Steve Hern: please mention my point please [Nov 6 2013, 12:48 AM] Steve Hern: the lack of administrative support for pd leads to poor teaching first start at the head so the head can understand diy for teachers. [Nov 6 2013, 12:51 AM] Steve Hern: Megan, the ideal toolset is that the lack of standardized testing and how it flows with curriculum for teachers to teach leads to poor results, a lack of cohesion for teachers to better understand and apply simple assessments to what students are learning [Nov 6 2013, 12:53 AM] fmindlin: There's one fork of authentic publication for a DIY project where it gets published on a web site or even in Make magazine; there's another fork where the product is a [practice for] a scientific paper [Nov 6 2013, 12:53 AM] Steve Hern: any comment on what i said [Nov 6 2013, 12:55 AM] edinnovator: sorry, Steve, not yet - we seemed to have gone down another path for the moment [Nov 6 2013, 1:00 AM] Steve Hern: i made my comment please announce [Nov 6 2013, 1:04 AM] edinnovator: Good night all - thanks for joining! [Nov 6 2013, 1:04 AM] Steve Hern: great job [Nov 6 2013, 1:04 AM] edinnovator: Thanks, Steve! [Nov 6 2013, 1:04 AM] fmindlin: Wow! Great opportunity--the zeer pot and dew-collecting water setups are great examples of DIY in the Third World [Nov 6 2013, 1:05 AM] Steve Hern: try to have some native administrators on your next webinars, i would volunteer for that [Nov 6 2013, 1:05 AM] edinnovator: excellent - good to know, Steve [Nov 6 2013, 1:05 AM] fmindlin: Thanks all [Nov 6 2013, 1:05 AM] edinnovator: let's connect via email - firstname.lastname@example.org [Nov 6 2013, 1:05 AM] edinnovator: Thanks, Fred [Nov 6 2013, 1:05 AM] edinnovator: sorry we didn't get to your last question, Fred [Nov 6 2013, 1:05 AM] edinnovator: Have a good night, all! [Nov 6 2013, 1:06 AM] fmindlin: No problem, thanks [Nov 6 2013, 1:09 AM] Steve Hern: good night
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